Waiting for My New Motorhome…

Feb/28/2012 21 Malia
RV Repairs, RVing

So since my last post about RV Show Drooling at the RV Expo, I’ve been getting lessons on what is possible and what is improbable (whether it’s due to cost, other things that I want more, whatever).

I had come to think a washer/dryer was an absolute necessity.  Even though it just came with my first motorhome, having lived with one for 11 years made it hard for me to accept having to go to the Laundromat every week or two.

It also made sense to me to go with a smaller RV than the 36′ I have now.  I looked at 29 footers and basically decided that just felt too small to me to live in fulltime – just my personal preference and belief I’d feel too cramped.  I quickly learned these two “needs” do not co-exist in any motorhome I could even think of affording.

But at that point I was still thinking maybe there’s a way to make this work – give up some space and have a washer/dryer installed.  I liked the 34′ Allegro TGA and the 33′ Winnebago Sightseer.  Not giving up much length from what I have now, but at least some.

But I didn’t want to feel desperate or in too much of a hurry to get anything – I’m a research junkie, remember?  However, having my water heater quit heating started to make me feel that way.  It’s one thing to get a message from the Universe that it’s time to take action (which is how I interpreted the last straw of the water heater breaking and the major expense that would be) – but I was finding it more and more of a pain to live without easy hot water and showering in the campground showers.  OK, I admit it – I’m just spoiled that way.

For a minute it looked like the water heater was fixed when my mobile RV tech came by and simply replaced a switch, which made the propane option work again.  But the next day the pilot light went out again, and when I opened the panel, I could see water dripping from the pressure release valve. I did all the things I knew to do, even with the tips of friends in the know about such things.  Suffice it to say, I had to drain the heater and there’s no winterization bypass valve anymore due to a prior “fix” to the chronic leaky heater in 2006.

So now I have the water turned off at the hose, my water tank filled, and I only turn on the pump when I need water, so that the water heater doesn’t fill up and keep leaking. OK, so I’m totally spoiled and don’t appreciate having to even think about not having even cold water at the drop of a tap.  But, OK, I can live with it for a little while, right???  Be thankful I still have any water at all – all that “grateful thinking” stuff I believe, but still have problems really living in times like this…

So what are your real options, Malia?

Meanwhile, last week I went to Crestview to see an option Rob wanted me to look at – the 35′ Allegro 35 QBT.  His idea (and he checked with the regional Tiffin rep as well as the techs at Crestview) and they thought it would work – was to replace the bunk beds in that model with the washer/dryer unit.  That space was directly next to the bathroom, so they thought the plumbing would work, etc.

What They Say About Bob Tiffin is True!

So although that model was certainly out of my price range, I thought this was the perfect opportunity to see if what I had heard about Tiffin customer service was true.  I know owners who swear by them and I’ve heard tales of people being able to talk to the big boss (Bob Tiffin) on the phone quite easily.  So I easily enough got his phone number from the Internet, got his voice mail and left a message briefly about what I was considering and wanted his opinion.  I have to say, I was pretty impressed that within a half hour, he called me back!  He told me he had gone to his engineer to discuss this option, and their opinion is that it shouldn’t be done.  He said the models they have that offer washer/dryers are basically built around them and the needs of that special feature.  Retrofitting something like that (especially that would be on one of the slides) was not a good idea, in their opinion.

Rethinking…

So I can rethink the smaller size option and stick with the 36′ length – or I can pretty much forget the washer/dryer option.  There’s just no room for them on the other smaller ones I’d been looking at.  Of course my “dream coach” that seems to have everything – the Allegro Red 34QA – is smaller, extremely beautiful, with the washer/dryer, but it’s also a diesel and about twice what I can realistically afford!  Wish I had never gone into that one at the show…   But even if that one is out of my league, I’ve had fun visiting with the folks at the Tiffin forum.  Such helpful and friendly people there – another “tip” on the side of buying from Tiffin.

Tomorrow I’m going back to Crestview to look at the smaller options again and tell myself I can live with having to go to the Laundromat – there are certainly worse fates than that!

So I’m waiting for my new motorhome to show up – where are you, Inspiration 2?

Update 3/5/12:  Crestview had already sold the Allegro 34 TGA and they don’t have an Allegro 32 CA (which is what I am really intriqued by at this point).  I haven’t been able to locate one in Texas at this point, so I’m looking into travel to Louisiana – or maybe if I get really crazy and antsy – I just may take a trip to Red Bay and see how they build these things!  :)

  • carolyn patterson

    You must have quite a wardrobe! I like to have the material that just rinses out. I wash undies and such in a sink. The heavy duty stuff … jeans, towels, sheets and such is just a one trip every week or so kind of thing.

    I had a 5th wheel and the washer/dryer combo was taken out to make way for a closet…

    I have met some reeeeally interesting folk at laundromats… ;)

  • jenny

    You know we actually took our washer/dryer out.  It was small, inefficient and in 2 hours I can do 4-6 loads at the laudry and I am done for the week.  The space where the washer/dryer was has turned into a wonderfull storage area for the dirty clothes basket and for clothing and extra towels.  I wouldn’t rule out a coach without the washer/dryer.  It is surprising what you get used to doing.  I usually find a laundry with WIFI and do a lot of computing.  For you writing.

  • http://www.maliasmiles.com MaliasRV

    I like this feedback – and more importantly, I really “get” it!  Thanks for making me think of a “new and improved” perspective about the washer/dryer issue.  You’re right – going to the laundromat is not torture and I know I can get used to it.  And maybe meet some of those interesting folks you guys meet!  :)

    Right now, the most important modification I need to make is to my work space. I work on a laptop at the dining table and it’s really a poor ergonomic setup.  So my looking tomorrow will focus more on what I can do about that.  Since I’m at the computer much more than anywhere else, I want to make that space comfortable and efficient.  I know I’ve seen some great things done in motorhomes with office space, whether it’s taking out the dinette, the couch or a chair, etc. 

    I’m still excited to be even looking at something new!!

  • http://www.maliasmiles.com MaliasRV

    Al, I’m not surprised that you don’t “get” it.  It’s not the first time I’ve heard that as I’m setting up my satellite dish, but my rebuttal always is: this is my life, not a weekend camping trip, so I see nothing wrong in having available conveniences that I would normally enjoy in my “real” life after I get through exploring and eating pie in local diners. All of those comments on Facebook and on the blog were from people who either have been or are now fulltime RVers.  For us, it’s our only home and it facilitates a lifestyle that allows us to live and work and do the kind of travel we love.  Even for those who are retired, it is still a different world and provides a different mindset from someone who leaves their home and camps as a true “get away” on a temporary basis like you do.  Each to their own, as to their own preference, I say, trying to be without judgment…
    Not that I always succeed in that, either!  :)

    • Lynda Bogart Stilley

      I just happened on your blog and thought as full-timers for 16 years, I’d add a comment or two.  We travel in a 32′ diesel pusher that is 12 yrs. old with one slide-out…quite a head-turner, actually!  It has no W/D and, though we put laundry off til the last minute, do enjoy using the local facilities…as in our current location of Ajo, AZ…boondocking on beautiful BLM land.  We have no need of satellite as our Verizon plus Wilson antenna/booster provide fast, reliable internet and phone.  Nice to meet you in this blogging community!

      • http://www.maliasmiles.com MaliasRV

        Hey, Lynda – good to hear from you!  I appreciate your comments and hope to meet you down the road sometime, so keep in touch.  Would love to compare notes with people who have been fulltiming even longer than me!  :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/Sportsczars.us Scott M Smith

    Go w/ the smaller unit – go to the laundromat.  You’ll meet new friends, have coffee or check your emails and FB msgs (like this one), smile and the money you save on fuel and ops costs makes the laundry FREE?

    • http://www.maliasmiles.com MaliasRV

      More and more I appreciate that scenario, Scott – thanks for sharing!

  • Susan

    I just bought an Itasca Sunstar (gas) and while it does not have w/d, I love the floor plan! It does have a bath and a half which is great for when my family visits, but maybe in your case, it could be converted to a laundry area. 
    I too would love to buy a diesel, but that was out of the question for me as well. The Itasca was an affordable coach.

    • http://www.maliasmiles.com MaliasRV

      Yeah, I’ve come to reality about the washer/dryer in a smaller (and what I can afford now) RV.  I definitely wouldn’t go for a retrofit of something that wasn’t already at least originally equipped for the connections.  I do believe that would be asking for trouble down the road, and I certainly don’t need to invite more than already finds me!  :)   I’m still considering all options, and would buy a Winnebago product again, but really my main focus and desire is still the Allegro – either the 34 TGA or the 32 CA, so I’m still trying to find the 32 CA to at least go inside, but no luck yet.  I keep hearing the message…persevere, Malia, persevere…  :)

  • http://cathymarble.blogspot.com/ Cathy Marble

    Hi Malia, I’ve been reading your blog for a while now and I love hearing your “process”. I’ve been a teacher all my life, but after my position was cut I switched gears and joined the sales force at La Mesa RV in Albuquerque. My partner and I hope to retire in a couple of years and go fulltiming. It was so fun to hear your thoughts and criteria for purchasing a new MH. I love that you have a salesperson that you are loyal to and that is going to bat for you. Keep us posted. Can’t wait to hear what you end up with!
    Cathy M

    • http://www.maliasmiles.com MaliasRV

      Hi Cathy – so good to “meet” you here and glad we’re now even FB friends!  :)

      I’m also glad you’re enjoying the blog and I appreciate the feedback.

      I do really hope to get my new MH from my original “angel” salesman and dealer, but I also cannot totally eliminate the prospect that it may come from another source since their inventory is pretty limited right now…

      I can tell you love your job and I got a kick out hearing you say that helping young families pick out their very first campers is “such a rush” – love that you’ve found joy in making others happy!

      Glad we’re in touch now and maybe someday we’ll meet down the road…

      Malia

  • Greg

    Malia, I am new to your blog and understand the washer dryer choice you have. I have been full timing for 5 years now in a 36 foot Holiday Rambler fifth wheel. It is plumbed for a washer dryer hookup and have decided the next major purchase for me is a washer dryer unit. Stick to what you really want and need which I expect you will by your blogs. lol Tiffin is a very good customer oriented manufacturer and is a very good choice. I actually move rvs for aliving and have driven several of their new motorhomes out of the Hershey Pa RV show up to Buffalo NY. They are a very nice product with superb manufacturer support. Glad I found your web site and hope to read more about your adventure. I am looking at the workamping experience as my next way of making some money while living this dream of mine. Stay safe and good luck in your future purchase.

    • http://www.maliasmiles.com MaliasRV

      Hi Greg,

      Well, I think I’ve pretty much given up the idea of having a washer/dryer given what I can afford in something newer/smaller now.  I’m pretty much decided on Tiffin, and probably the 34TGA or the 32 CA, but I’d actually like to see the 32 CA before finally deciding…  That’s why I may end up going to Red Bay and if I do, I may stay while it’s being built… who knows?

      I’m glad you commented, that you enjoy the blog and hope you’ll stay in touch.  We share a dream, so should share ideas, too!  :)

      Thanks,
      Malia

  • Garrison053

    I am in the “looking” phase right now and am really confused by the trailer/truck vs. self contained rv.
    How do you choose?

    • http://www.maliasmiles.com MaliasRV

      Hi Garrison,

      Yeah, that was the first thing I was confused and conflicted about when I first started looking, also. 

      Here are the arguments I heard: if you tow a trailer or 5th wheel, you only have one engine to deal with – the truck you’re towing with.  If you have a motorhome and then tow a car to use to drive around with once the motorhome is camped at a campground, you’re dealing with maintenance, etc. on 2 engines – the motorhome and the car (along with whatever issues you have towing the car, also – like making sure you follow whatever requirements exist for the type of car you’re towing, if you’re going to have to use a dolly, etc.).

      If you don’t tow a car, it’s gonna be hard sometimes to get in and out of places (for general sightseeing) in the RV itself.  Of course size factors into this part, but I also didn’t like the idea of having to deal with hooking and unhooking in terms of utilities, etc. everytime I wanted to go anywhere.  And I generally like to stay in one spot at least a week or so (and usually longer) to really explore an area.

      But for me, as a woman always RVing solo, the safety aspect of not having to leave the truck to get into the RV for bathroom breaks, eating, etc. made me feel better.  So self-contained was finally what I decided was best for me.

      Not only that, I thought it was just too intimidating and confusing trying to learn to tow and back up a trailer.  I’d never done anything like that before and even watching experienced guys go through what they had to in order to get properly backed in and hooked/unhooked, etc. just made me think that was too much trouble for me.

      The other thing for me that sold me on the motorhome was the expansive view from the huge windshield.  Again, since I drive alone, the more I can see the better and driving a regular truck (or even a class C), the cab feels much more cramped and the view limited.  I really love driving the motorhome!

      That’s all I can think of at the moment, but if you have any other questions, please feel free to ask!
      Good luck in your search!
      Malia

  • Ml Pattynan63

    You are certainly a fierce researcher aren’t you? I hope you find what you are looking for. Never Never go out of your comfort zone with what you know you can afford. Even if you think something is beautiful, you will pay later and wonder why you did that. Then you can’t get rid of the problem. The instant you drive the motorhome away from the lot, you have lost money, when you purchae new. Let someone else eat that part. They are practically giving homes away here in Yuma. I am shocked by what I see. I know it sounds wonderful to have the new things, but you can do a lot of laundry for the cost of new fancy rig. The cost of a new computer for our washer dryer was almost $500. You can buy a new one practically for that amount. Ours died and we donated it to recycle.
    We do not miss it for one minute. It only did small loads and jeans dried with all kinds of wrinkles. Get an outdoor laundy that hangs on your ladder. It works great. Things dry fast most of the time and no cost. Sorry to sound like such a downer, but we have been where you are. Love…Sis

    • http://www.maliasmiles.com MaliasRV

      “fierce researcher” – LOL, but I guess that’s a really good description of me and my style when I’m doing something important.  And honestly, at this point, I’m so confused and unsure anymore about anything no matter how much fierce research I’ve done that basically I’ve just decided to freeze in place for a while until my heart and mind are more at peace with what to do, especially regarding the new financing laws, etc.

      May end up being with old Inspiration longer than I thought…  :)

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  • Linda Sand

    You might want to look at Winnebago’s 34Y. Yes, it’s a diesel but you can buy used ones with W/D or at least the connections for one. We lived 18 months in ours before DH decided he was done fulltiming.

    • http://www.maliasmiles.com MaliasRV

      Wow, the size and everything else sounds good, but I’m too intimidated by diesel, Linda.  Hope you weren’t too unhappy when DH was done with fulltiming – thanks for sharing!